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[cocotte 63]

bon ben il se fera opérer juste avant le tournoi après la dernière journée de Champions Cup de Janvier... là, il a 6 semaines pour se remettre moralement...

 

6 semaines, on peut dire qu'il s'en sort bien...

[bazooka]

L'addition est plutôt light au regard du geste, merci Jako   

[Eria]

6 semaines seulement après ce geste abjecte de déshonneur qui a humilié la France entière  , Laporte et les autres... 

 

Sebastien nous montre la lune ,cette fois ci il faut bien regarder le doigt, qui va dans la "l"une de tous les médias et éditorialistes ...

 

Merci au photographe et supporters Gallois  ,on apprend en plus qu'il ne se fera pas opéré,on y rajoute la fin des doublons,la vision de Galthier empêtré de Lambey ,c'est que du plaisir,et une forme de reconnaissance envers la FFR... 

 

 

je suis pas un spécialiste de smiley ,mais il me semble que celui ci qui s y prête bien

 

 

 

 

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[DOUDOU63]

Arrêtez avec les réseaux sociaux

Oui, c'est du venin surtout depuis samedi, un déferlement de merde absolue, et les vioques du forum seront de mon avis et les jeunes aussi !!!!, Vous imaginez les réseaux sociaux avec les "" poètes"" de 77, ils étaient radiés à vie….!!!!

[xdderf63]

Une commission humaine ? 

On aura tout vu (en résumé 10 semaines avec 35% de circonstances atténuantes = 6 semaines)

 

La commission note au point 6 : 

=> En outre, conformément à l’alinéa 17.19.5 (f), pour ce joueur, être expulsé

en quart de finale de la RWC aura un impact significatif à la fois personnellement

et en France. Il sera pour toujours le joueur français de la Coupe du Monde 2019

qui a probablement coûté une demi-finale à la France.

 

 

COMPTE RENDU RUGBY WORLD CUP 2019 : 

 

In the Matter of a Red Card issued to Sébastien Vaahaamahina of France (the “Player”) during the

match between Wales and France on Sunday 20th October 2019 at Oita Stadium

 

Summary Decision of the Judicial Committee ⸻ Mike Hamlin (England - Chair), David Croft

(Australia, former international player) and Leon Lloyd (England, former international player)

 

The Committee determined that the Player intentionally elbowed Aaron Wainwright in the face in

the 48th minute of the RWC quarter final match between Wales and France in Oita, Japan, on 20th

October 2019. By his own admission his actions were intentional and deliberate. Having taken into

account all the evidence relating to the incident, including the evidence and submissions on behalf

of the Player, including his own impressive evidence the Committee found:

 

1. The act of foul play was intentional.

2. Aaron Wainwright suffered no injury visible or otherwise.

3. Striking another player with an elbow is a serious act and could have resulted in serious

injury, fortunately in this case there was none.

4. Aaron Wainwright was vulnerable. There was also an element of a cheap shot about the

Player’s conduct.

 

Taking into account the above factors the Committee categorised the offending as top end with a

starting entry point of 10 weeks. Absent any injury, the Committee declined to increase the top end

entry point of 10 weeks.

 

Pursuant to Regulation 17.19.5 the Committee made the following findings:

 

1. The Player’s acknowledgment of guilt and timing was immediate, both oral and written.

2. The Player had one relevant disciplinary transgression for foul play, in the Top 14 season

17/18 he was suspended 3 weeks for striking with his hand.

3. The Player is not young nor inexperienced, having played 46 games for France and is 28

years of age.

4. His conduct before and during the hearing was exemplary. Indeed Mr Rutherford

commented on the Player’s candid acknowledgment of his full culpability including that this

was not standard mid-range offending.

5. Remorse was expressed immediately.

6. The Player had acknowledged issues post October 2018 by undertaking certain specialist

training. Furthermore, pursuant to 17.19.5 (f), being sent off in RWC quarter final for this

Player will have a significant impact both personally and in France. He will be forever

remembered for being the French player to be sent off in the 2019 World Cup which

probably cost France a semi-final place.

 

Accordingly, we allow 35% for mitigating factors which results in a 4-week deduction from the entry

point of 10 weeks. Accordingly. The Player is suspended from 20/10/2019 until midnight on

15/12/2019. He is free to play again on 16th December 2019.

 

Mike Hamlin

David Croft

Leon Lloyd.

 

 

 

[Ptolémée]

L'addition est plutôt light au regard du geste, merci Jako 

 

oui , je m'attendais à bien pire ...

[SaintG]

du 20/10 au 15/12 = 8 semaines, pas 6!

[dj0e]

Le rapport est très bien, très complet.
Rien à ajouter, il sera suspendu le temps qu'il faut, et ensuite la vie reprendra son cours.

[darius63]

Il peut être là pour le match difficile à Bath en HCUP le 6 Décembre?

[Le Marseillais]

Il peut être là pour le match difficile à Bath en HCUP le 6 Décembre?

Il revient juste pour le match d'après, à Toulon je crois.

[le nougatier]

Il revient juste pour le match d'après, à Toulon je crois.

 

Yep, il sera bien accueilli.

 

Tu sera là?

[Le Marseillais]

A ton avis 

Et que j'entende pas un seul sifflet, hein...

[Silhouette]

 

Une commission humaine ? 

On aura tout vu (en résumé 10 semaines avec 35% de circonstances atténuantes = 6 semaines)

 

La commission note au point 6 : 

=> En outre, conformément à l’alinéa 17.19.5 (f), pour ce joueur, être expulsé

en quart de finale de la RWC aura un impact significatif à la fois personnellement

et en France. Il sera pour toujours le joueur français de la Coupe du Monde 2019

qui a probablement coûté une demi-finale à la France.

 

 

Tant mieux si ca a aide Vahaa, mais je trouve que c'est absolument n'importe quoi de prendre en compte ce genre d'information dans un contexte de commission de discipline pour brutalite. Je comprends vraiment pas en quoi ca devrait influer sur sa suspension... 

[jiesse]

Il y avait un ancien seconde ligne dans la commission ???

 

      Bon tant mieux pour lui...et pour nous....

[DOUDOU63]

 

Une commission humaine ? 

On aura tout vu (en résumé 10 semaines avec 35% de circonstances atténuantes = 6 semaines)

 

La commission note au point 6 : 

=> En outre, conformément à l’alinéa 17.19.5 (f), pour ce joueur, être expulsé

en quart de finale de la RWC aura un impact significatif à la fois personnellement

et en France. Il sera pour toujours le joueur français de la Coupe du Monde 2019

qui a probablement coûté une demi-finale à la France.

 

 

COMPTE RENDU RUGBY WORLD CUP 2019 : 

 

In the Matter of a Red Card issued to Sébastien Vaahaamahina of France (the “Player”) during the

match between Wales and France on Sunday 20th October 2019 at Oita Stadium

 

Summary Decision of the Judicial Committee ⸻ Mike Hamlin (England - Chair), David Croft

(Australia, former international player) and Leon Lloyd (England, former international player)

 

The Committee determined that the Player intentionally elbowed Aaron Wainwright in the face in

the 48th minute of the RWC quarter final match between Wales and France in Oita, Japan, on 20th

October 2019. By his own admission his actions were intentional and deliberate. Having taken into

account all the evidence relating to the incident, including the evidence and submissions on behalf

of the Player, including his own impressive evidence the Committee found:

 

1. The act of foul play was intentional.

2. Aaron Wainwright suffered no injury visible or otherwise.

3. Striking another player with an elbow is a serious act and could have resulted in serious

injury, fortunately in this case there was none.

4. Aaron Wainwright was vulnerable. There was also an element of a cheap shot about the

Player’s conduct.

 

Taking into account the above factors the Committee categorised the offending as top end with a

starting entry point of 10 weeks. Absent any injury, the Committee declined to increase the top end

entry point of 10 weeks.

 

Pursuant to Regulation 17.19.5 the Committee made the following findings:

 

1. The Player’s acknowledgment of guilt and timing was immediate, both oral and written.

2. The Player had one relevant disciplinary transgression for foul play, in the Top 14 season

17/18 he was suspended 3 weeks for striking with his hand.

3. The Player is not young nor inexperienced, having played 46 games for France and is 28

years of age.

4. His conduct before and during the hearing was exemplary. Indeed Mr Rutherford

commented on the Player’s candid acknowledgment of his full culpability including that this

was not standard mid-range offending.

5. Remorse was expressed immediately.

6. The Player had acknowledged issues post October 2018 by undertaking certain specialist

training. Furthermore, pursuant to 17.19.5 (f), being sent off in RWC quarter final for this

Player will have a significant impact both personally and in France. He will be forever

remembered for being the French player to be sent off in the 2019 World Cup which

probably cost France a semi-final place.

 

Accordingly, we allow 35% for mitigating factors which results in a 4-week deduction from the entry

point of 10 weeks. Accordingly. The Player is suspended from 20/10/2019 until midnight on

15/12/2019. He is free to play again on 16th December 2019.

 

Mike Hamlin

David Croft

Leon Lloyd.

 

 

 

 

Bon, j'ai pas tout compris    …..Mais, j'avoue mon étonnement sur les mentions en gras...Ia Morale n'est pas la loi, et là, j'ai l'impression qu'ils font preuve d'une leçon de morale, en laissant entendre que la sanction la plus importante reste à venir…..En la portant sur ses épaules…..